Monday, August 16, 2004
Iraq vs Yugoslavia
From: "Me"
To: "Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL"
Cc: "Newman, Richard I 1LT CECOM LEGAL"
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 1:31 PM
Subject: Iraq vs Yugoslavia
> > I saw the article your citing. It seems extremely opinionated and
partisan
> > towards Bush camp.
> > It was a July poll, which also showed opinions to have shifted slightly
in
> > the "going better" direction for the Iraqi war, which obviously and
> > objectively, is going worse than ever in recent weeks. (The margin of
error
> > is there for a reason)
> > Yeah, it's no Vietnam, but on the other hand it's nowhere near the
> > successful Bosnian campaign/war where we accomplished regime change and
> > greater stability with an astounding 0 American forces casualties. So
that's
> > 100.00% of service members taking down Milosevic that survived to serve
on
> > behalf of the presidents' future interests.
> > (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778300.html or internet search
Yugoslavia
> > combat casualties)
> > From what I understand, there wasn't as much controversy behind the
decision
> > to help out in Europe. That had UN backing though, didn't it?
> > In regards to Iraq (same site or search terms):
> > "A total of 886 Americans have been killed, including 232 accidental
deaths
> > and other deaths not the result of hostile attacks (July 16). 4,682 were
> > wounded in combat (May 25); a total of roughly 9,000 were wounded,
seriously
> > injured, or evacuated for illness (mid-April)"
> >
> > How do Milosevic and Hussein compare to you?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL"
> > To: "Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL";
> > "Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM LEGAL"
> >; "Simon, Marjorie R CPT CECOM
> > LEGAL"; "Wu, Robert T CPT CECOM
> > LEGAL"; "Weniger, Michael J CECOM
LEGAL"
> >
> > Cc:; "Marrama, Denise M CECOM LEGAL"
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:45 AM
> > Subject: RE: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > > Newman,
> > >
> > > I pretty much stopped betting after I lost my shirt a couple of times
at the
> > > casino in Wiesbaden, Germany (the same one visited by Mr. Dostoyevsky
before
> > > writing 'The Gambler.'
> > >
> > > However, only to make you happy, Mr. Newman (which, of course, is a
worthy
> > > goal), and not because I have great faith (if hope) that GWB will
carry New
> > > Jersey, I will bet you a beer of your choice from Finnegan's, or
perhaps
> > > some other, and possibly even more classy, establishment.
> > >
> > > See below -- Fairleigh Dickinson poll that says it's a 1-point race.
I
> > > don't necessarily buy that, and I've see other polls that set the gap
at a
> > > larger distance, but I think it's not clear that Kerry has the Garden
State
> > > wrapped up, especially with a great deal of political landscape to
traverse
> > > before November.
> > >
> >
>http://www.nj.com/newsflash/politics/index.ssf?/base/elections-0/1091028850
295110.xml&storylist=politics
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:33 AM
> > > To: Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL; Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM
LEGAL;
> > > Simon, Marjorie R CPT CECOM LEGAL; Wu, Robert T CPT CECOM LEGAL;
> > > Weniger, Michael J CECOM LEGAL
> > > Cc: 'ngrimmm@hotmail.com'; Marrama, Denise M CECOM LEGAL
> > > Subject: RE: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > >
> > > I'll give you a spread. You say it is in play, I say it is not. I'm
sure
> > > we can come up with a fair bet based on this.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:30 AM
> > > To: Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL; Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM
> > > LEGAL; Simon, Marjorie R CPT CECOM LEGAL; Wu, Robert T CPT CECOM
LEGAL;
> > > Weniger, Michael J CECOM LEGAL
> > > Cc: 'ngrimmm@hotmail.com'; Marrama, Denise M CECOM LEGAL
> > > Subject: RE: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > >
> > > No. Though they will fluctuate, the only one that will matter is on
Nov. 2.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:26 AM
> > > To: Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL; Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM
LEGAL;
> > > Simon, Marjorie R CPT CECOM LEGAL; Wu, Robert T CPT CECOM LEGAL;
> > > Weniger, Michael J CECOM LEGAL
> > > Cc: 'ngrimmm@hotmail.com'; Marrama, Denise M CECOM LEGAL
> > > Subject: RE: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > >
> > > Care to put something on that?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:26 AM
> > > To: Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL; Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM
> > > LEGAL; Simon, Marjorie R CPT CECOM LEGAL; Wu, Robert T CPT CECOM
LEGAL;
> > > Weniger, Michael J CECOM LEGAL
> > > Cc: 'ngrimmm@hotmail.com'; Marrama, Denise M CECOM LEGAL
> > > Subject: RE: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > >
> > > NJ is in play. Last poll I saw had Kerry up by two (2) points.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:25 AM
> > > To: Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM LEGAL; Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM
LEGAL;
> > > Simon, Marjorie R CPT CECOM LEGAL; Wu, Robert T CPT CECOM LEGAL;
> > > Weniger, Michael J CECOM LEGAL
> > > Cc: 'ngrimmm@hotmail.com'; Marrama, Denise M CECOM LEGAL
> > > Subject: FW: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > >
> > > The Boss spoke out in a recent NY Times article. I think he is going
to try
> > > to do what John Lennon was trying to do (before the Nixon admin came
down
> > > with the immigration charges)...
> > >
> > > Chords for Change
> > > August 5, 2004
> > > By BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
> > > For the last 25 years I have always stayed away from
> > > partisan politics, but this year the stakes have risen too
> > > high to sit the election out.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/05/opinion/05bruce.html?ex=1092711468&ei=1&en
=bffb8d53100f0e0f
> > >
> > > ps- I was talking with someone recently who thought NJ was in play
during
> > > this election. Boy were they wrong. I spoke with a Democrat finance
man
> > > and he verified that not only is NJ not in play, but NJ is basically
the ATM
> > > for the DNC.
> > >
> > > Newman
¶ 2:51 PM
To: "Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL"
Cc: "Newman, Richard I 1LT CECOM LEGAL"
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 1:31 PM
Subject: Iraq vs Yugoslavia
> > I saw the article your citing. It seems extremely opinionated and
partisan
> > towards Bush camp.
> > It was a July poll, which also showed opinions to have shifted slightly
in
> > the "going better" direction for the Iraqi war, which obviously and
> > objectively, is going worse than ever in recent weeks. (The margin of
error
> > is there for a reason)
> > Yeah, it's no Vietnam, but on the other hand it's nowhere near the
> > successful Bosnian campaign/war where we accomplished regime change and
> > greater stability with an astounding 0 American forces casualties. So
that's
> > 100.00% of service members taking down Milosevic that survived to serve
on
> > behalf of the presidents' future interests.
> > (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778300.html or internet search
Yugoslavia
> > combat casualties)
> > From what I understand, there wasn't as much controversy behind the
decision
> > to help out in Europe. That had UN backing though, didn't it?
> > In regards to Iraq (same site or search terms):
> > "A total of 886 Americans have been killed, including 232 accidental
deaths
> > and other deaths not the result of hostile attacks (July 16). 4,682 were
> > wounded in combat (May 25); a total of roughly 9,000 were wounded,
seriously
> > injured, or evacuated for illness (mid-April)"
> >
> > How do Milosevic and Hussein compare to you?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL"
> > To: "Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL"
> > "Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM LEGAL"
> >
> > LEGAL"
> > LEGAL"
LEGAL"
> >
> > Cc:
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:45 AM
> > Subject: RE: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > > Newman,
> > >
> > > I pretty much stopped betting after I lost my shirt a couple of times
at the
> > > casino in Wiesbaden, Germany (the same one visited by Mr. Dostoyevsky
before
> > > writing 'The Gambler.'
> > >
> > > However, only to make you happy, Mr. Newman (which, of course, is a
worthy
> > > goal), and not because I have great faith (if hope) that GWB will
carry New
> > > Jersey, I will bet you a beer of your choice from Finnegan's, or
perhaps
> > > some other, and possibly even more classy, establishment.
> > >
> > > See below -- Fairleigh Dickinson poll that says it's a 1-point race.
I
> > > don't necessarily buy that, and I've see other polls that set the gap
at a
> > > larger distance, but I think it's not clear that Kerry has the Garden
State
> > > wrapped up, especially with a great deal of political landscape to
traverse
> > > before November.
> > >
> >
>http://www.nj.com/newsflash/politics/index.ssf?/base/elections-0/1091028850
295110.xml&storylist=politics
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:33 AM
> > > To: Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL; Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM
LEGAL;
> > > Simon, Marjorie R CPT CECOM LEGAL; Wu, Robert T CPT CECOM LEGAL;
> > > Weniger, Michael J CECOM LEGAL
> > > Cc: 'ngrimmm@hotmail.com'; Marrama, Denise M CECOM LEGAL
> > > Subject: RE: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > >
> > > I'll give you a spread. You say it is in play, I say it is not. I'm
sure
> > > we can come up with a fair bet based on this.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:30 AM
> > > To: Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL; Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM
> > > LEGAL; Simon, Marjorie R CPT CECOM LEGAL; Wu, Robert T CPT CECOM
LEGAL;
> > > Weniger, Michael J CECOM LEGAL
> > > Cc: 'ngrimmm@hotmail.com'; Marrama, Denise M CECOM LEGAL
> > > Subject: RE: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > >
> > > No. Though they will fluctuate, the only one that will matter is on
Nov. 2.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:26 AM
> > > To: Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL; Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM
LEGAL;
> > > Simon, Marjorie R CPT CECOM LEGAL; Wu, Robert T CPT CECOM LEGAL;
> > > Weniger, Michael J CECOM LEGAL
> > > Cc: 'ngrimmm@hotmail.com'; Marrama, Denise M CECOM LEGAL
> > > Subject: RE: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > >
> > > Care to put something on that?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM LEGAL
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:26 AM
> > > To: Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL; Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM
> > > LEGAL; Simon, Marjorie R CPT CECOM LEGAL; Wu, Robert T CPT CECOM
LEGAL;
> > > Weniger, Michael J CECOM LEGAL
> > > Cc: 'ngrimmm@hotmail.com'; Marrama, Denise M CECOM LEGAL
> > > Subject: RE: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > >
> > > NJ is in play. Last poll I saw had Kerry up by two (2) points.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Newman, Richard I CPT CECOM LEGAL
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:25 AM
> > > To: Johnson, Maurice J MAJ CECOM LEGAL; Pantzer, Daniel CPT CECOM
LEGAL;
> > > Simon, Marjorie R CPT CECOM LEGAL; Wu, Robert T CPT CECOM LEGAL;
> > > Weniger, Michael J CECOM LEGAL
> > > Cc: 'ngrimmm@hotmail.com'; Marrama, Denise M CECOM LEGAL
> > > Subject: FW: NYTimes.com Article: Chords for Change
> > >
> > > The Boss spoke out in a recent NY Times article. I think he is going
to try
> > > to do what John Lennon was trying to do (before the Nixon admin came
down
> > > with the immigration charges)...
> > >
> > > Chords for Change
> > > August 5, 2004
> > > By BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
> > > For the last 25 years I have always stayed away from
> > > partisan politics, but this year the stakes have risen too
> > > high to sit the election out.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/05/opinion/05bruce.html?ex=1092711468&ei=1&en
=bffb8d53100f0e0f
> > >
> > > ps- I was talking with someone recently who thought NJ was in play
during
> > > this election. Boy were they wrong. I spoke with a Democrat finance
man
> > > and he verified that not only is NJ not in play, but NJ is basically
the ATM
> > > for the DNC.
> > >
> > > Newman
¶ 2:51 PM
